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Post by deepdaleoldun on Jul 17, 2024 21:54:31 GMT
themaclad,I think anyone exchanging views with px6, is in for a hard ride he obviously is not interested from his posts in the quality of the football we dish up and clears RL from any blame for what we have been seeing on the pitch its all the players fault he doesnt remember the runs of losses only the wins but as a PNE supporter he is entitled to his opinion
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Post by px6 on Jul 17, 2024 22:16:27 GMT
Oldun don’t know if you’ve realised but this forum is pretty dead, just trying to offer a balanced opinion.
I know we’ve had better managers and he’s got a car salesman feel about him. But we could do a lot worse. It’s definitely not doom and gloom like people make out.
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Post by themaclad on Jul 18, 2024 8:52:56 GMT
themaclad,I think anyone exchanging views with px6, is in for a hard ride he obviously is not interested from his posts in the quality of the football we dish up and clears RL from any blame for what we have been seeing on the pitch its all the players fault he doesnt remember the runs of losses only the wins but as a PNE supporter he is entitled to his opinion I saw 44 of the 48 games last season and I know I'm right, turgid one dimension rubbish with a manager who is clueless but speaks a good game. PX6 is entitled to his own views I think he's wrong, possibly forgets the 5 we conceded in the second half against Watford |
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Post by Mooney on Jul 18, 2024 9:22:26 GMT
New season clean slate for me. I'm not going to slag Lowe off until the season starts in earnest. Respect all the views expressed by deepdaleoldun, px6, themaclad, on the thread and I too was incredibly fed up for large chunks of last season. For now, Ryan is our manager, and I'm going to keep quiet regarding his abilities until a reasonable amount of time into the season. |
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Post by px6 on Jul 18, 2024 11:13:24 GMT
themaclad,I think anyone exchanging views with px6, is in for a hard ride he obviously is not interested from his posts in the quality of the football we dish up and clears RL from any blame for what we have been seeing on the pitch its all the players fault he doesnt remember the runs of losses only the wins but as a PNE supporter he is entitled to his opinion I saw 44 of the 48 games last season and I know I'm right, turgid one dimension rubbish with a manager who is clueless but speaks a good game. PX6 is entitled to his own views I think he's wrong, possibly forgets the 5 we conceded in the second half against Watford And you’ve forgotten us putting 3 past Coventry, Ipswich, Huddersfield and Rotherham in one half. How convenient. Never once said RL is faultless. |
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Post by px6 on Jul 18, 2024 11:28:29 GMT
Who would you want if we sacked Lowe?
john eustace was the name fans where wanting before he went blackburn. Ainsworth before that. Two bullets dodged.
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Post by markos50 on Jul 18, 2024 12:20:03 GMT
I posted a while back about the success or lack of it with managers appointed after a sacking. Moyes, Davies moved up from within after sackings or other moves. There were cries for Eustace and Mowbray last season add to that Ainsworth its 3 bullets actually dodged.
If we lose to SUFC on the first Friday, shouts of Lowe out will start....guaranteed.
I hope we can be measured on here next season, and if some shout Lowe out, please back it up with a detailed solution including a new managers name and be prepared to hold up thy hand up high if it does not work out.
I'm still backing Ryan, but if it does not work out, my hand will be raised, whilst many others with far more knowledge about football than I will say, "told you so"
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Post by markos50 on Jul 18, 2024 12:21:38 GMT
New season clean slate for me. I'm not going to slag Lowe off until the season starts in earnest. Respect all the views expressed by deepdaleoldun, px6, themaclad, on the thread and I too was incredibly fed up for large chunks of last season. For now, Ryan is our manager, and I'm going to keep quiet regarding his abilities until a reasonable amount of time into the season. What do you consider reasonable ? 10 mins into the 1st game and we a 0-2 down!  You have go to give him to Xmas |
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Post by Mooney on Jul 18, 2024 12:41:28 GMT
New season clean slate for me. I'm not going to slag Lowe off until the season starts in earnest. Respect all the views expressed by deepdaleoldun, px6, themaclad, on the thread and I too was incredibly fed up for large chunks of last season. For now, Ryan is our manager, and I'm going to keep quiet regarding his abilities until a reasonable amount of time into the season. What do you consider reasonable ? 10 mins into the 1st game and we a 0-2 down! You have go to give him to Xmas For me, it depends on how bad bad gets!!! Bearing in mind how we ended last season, if we were to (perish the thought) lose the first five, he's on 10 consecutive defeats and that for me is untenable. However, if we are just a bit inconsistent, mediocre and boring (ie, 16th or above) then I would agree. If we start badly and leave it too long, it's likely to be too late to salvage anything. As a broad rule of thumb, I'd be evaluating after 10-12 games - but this could change given the length of time Lowe has already been here and how little progress has been made. |
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Post by smithy0312 on Jul 18, 2024 12:44:55 GMT
The problem with changing a manager is that leaving it till Xmas is too late to give a new manager time to assess the squad before the transfer window in Jan. I'd change a manager by end of Oct/beginning of November so that they can see where changes are needed and identify targets and their availability earlier so that there's no last minute panic buying at vastly inflated prices.
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Post by smithy0312 on Jul 18, 2024 13:02:48 GMT
Anyway back to the thread went to Brig last nite impressed by Pasiek, Noah and Theo Mawene Stewart and Holmes but rest looked too reserved to judge but then it's only preseason time to tell will be Everton at home week before season starts so not gonna get too excited yet
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Post by dawsonsjs on Jul 18, 2024 14:03:09 GMT
It reflects something seriously the matter when pre-season discussion is on sacking the manager.
(I am reminded of a manager (can't recall whom) in his own defence said that 'we had a good pre-season'....Lowe couldn't even say that).
However I agree with those who say pre-season matches count for nothing...so we'll wait and see what happens now he's got (virtually) his own squad. No excuses...I don't expect a top 6 finish nor a bottom one (but fear it)...I just want to see some decent football and for us to stop getting hammered. That's not too high or unreasonable expectation is it?
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Post by superiorno1pne on Jul 18, 2024 22:15:13 GMT
Liverpool at their training ground tomorrow
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Post by pnebraddy87 on Jul 19, 2024 16:42:15 GMT
Won 1-0, Robbie Brady from 40 yards apparently!
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Post by Mooney on Jul 19, 2024 17:12:51 GMT
Won 1-0, Robbie Brady from 40 yards apparently! Class is permanent. Happy for anyone to trawl the threads and prove otherwise but I’ve always liked Brady! Oh my God, imagine Lowe right now. I bet he went all Steve Lomas when we scored (Google it) |
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Post by Bobby Ham's sarnie on Jul 19, 2024 18:53:48 GMT
I wouldn't want Evans as caretaker manager if Lowe leaves.
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Post by Mooney on Jul 19, 2024 19:43:44 GMT
I wouldn't want Evans as caretaker manager if Lowe leaves. I’d rather they gave the job to the kit man. |
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Post by markos50 on Jul 19, 2024 20:56:11 GMT
If this is true and PNE beat Liverpool by one goal, it’s a disgrace, what on earth is Lowe doing, we should be putting 4 or 5 past that standard of team.
He ain’t got a clue!
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Post by chris1987 on Jul 19, 2024 20:58:01 GMT
If this is true and PNE beat Liverpool by one goal, it’s a disgrace, what on earth is Lowe doing, we should be putting 4 or 5 past that standard of team. He ain’t got a clue! Agreed, Lowe is absolutely clueless 😜 |
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Post by markos50 on Jul 19, 2024 21:00:32 GMT
It is true…..seen it on x or twitpot whatever it’s called
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Post by dawsonsjs on Jul 19, 2024 21:28:29 GMT
Can we play Liverpool's U21s every week?
Nearly every first team player and even those on the bench have been on international duty and , as such I have no doubt they won't be reporting for training for another week or two.
Wonder if Lowe spotted another good potential loan, like Ramsey?
Maybe even signings such as Layton Stewart ?
(Who needs to be playing regularly at his age having shown some potential but Lowe has preferred the likes of Evans)
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Post by ginagee on Jul 19, 2024 21:47:18 GMT
Hardly their U21 side
1-0 Preston
Liverpool first half: Jaros, Bradley, Van den Berg, Quansah, Tsimikas, Jones, Elliott, Szoboszlai (Endo, 33), Doak, Salah, Carvalho.
Liverpool second half: Davies, Stephenson, Nallo, Phillips, Chambers (Beck, 75), Endo (Nyoni, 75), Bajcetic, Morton, McConnell, Koumas (Blair, 75), Gordon.
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Post by dawsonsjs on Jul 19, 2024 21:48:39 GMT
Markos , nobody knows whom a replacement manager may be. That's for the club. What is certain is that there will always be dozens (even hundreds) of candidates. What is clear is that Ridsdale is no good at picking one. He struck lucky with Grayson and Neil being obvious choices due to having good relevant experience and being out of work but none of his other choices have been any good..doesn't seem to have learned a thing from the club's history, picking a lower League manager on the basis of one or two seasons success at a lower level never works at Deepdale. You can go back some way, Simpson, Westly, Ferguson, all flops with us.
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Post by superiorno1pne on Jul 19, 2024 21:52:08 GMT
Wouldn’t be bothered if we beat the Spanish National team to be honest.
I don’t mind saying it everyday Ryan Lowe is out of his depth and Peter Ridsdale is a chancer, charlatan and con man.
I will never forgive the Riddler (when 75%) of the paying fan base were ignored.
I get we have first/second division players but our brand of football is as bad as I have seen. Enough chances the pair of them.Get rid.
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Post by dawsonsjs on Jul 20, 2024 11:23:03 GMT
To be fair that wasn't a bad L'pool line up first half..can we have Sep back?
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Post by overseaspne on Jul 20, 2024 21:17:47 GMT
Personally, I took the opportunity to gloat over my glory hunting non scouse mates today. Very pleasing
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Post by superiorno1pne on Jul 21, 2024 12:32:17 GMT
Everton sold all their tickets! 25 quid to get on…..not for me
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Post by Phantom Winger on Jul 21, 2024 15:03:16 GMT
Beating Liverpool. Get in. Fiorentina is tempting. Lad home from Uni.
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Post by dawsonsjs on Jul 21, 2024 16:11:40 GMT
A Liverpool team with three, regular first teamers (Bradley, Elliot, Salah) and 2 weeks behind Champ clubs in pre-season preparation followed by an U21/Academy squad. I can recall when we took on L'pool's first team...indeed until Shanks got hold of them we were a bigger club.
Out of curiosity, and because I get to wear my Fiorentina scarf, I shall go on next Saturday but for the Everton match I have a choice, between the game or playing in an early evening family ceilidh at Kate Rusby's folky Under the Stars Festival, about 3,000 people go...did it once before when Steve Earl was on the main stage and we were packed out as families walked out of Earl because of his language and came to us. Think I prefer the music and a beer to the half-hearted gentle warm ups these games are with multiple stops for subs. I don't think they show or prove anything.
(Sup , in your rant about Ridsdale, 'chancer, charlatan etc', above you fail to say these are his good points).
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Post by NobbyDawson on Jul 23, 2024 13:40:10 GMT
More minutes into the players' legs produced a 2-0 defeat to Tranmere Rovers today.
One poster on t"other site reacted with a comment that I have adapted slightly.
What is the difference between the manager and the new floodlights?
One gives us a light show and the other....
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